A tour de force by Michelle Stirling. Michelle shows her knowledge in understanding how the climate movement evolved out of eugenicists and Malthusians. From the early 20th century eugenicists who spread their fake science to Germany under the moustache man. “Limits to Growth” and the “Population bomb” then moving onto Co2. The same foundations: Carnegie Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, Sierra Club, WFF have been behind this.
In this episode of the RichieBrown Show we’re joined with Michelle Stirling of www.FriendsOfScience.org
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Introduction and Guest Welcome
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Host:
“Big warm welcome for our guest today, Michelle Sterling, here with Friends of Science.org, who are doing excellent work pushing out real science. I got in touch when I came across your excellent article by William Walter K. This article is around the British coal industry after the 1974 Conservative Heath government was brought down by the coal miners and the National Union of Mine Workers. The main champions for climate change were the Thatcherites. Chris Patten spent the next decade—an ally of Thatcher’s—strategizing on how to export the British coal industry and export industrial workers.”
Climate Change’s Historical Roots in Eugenics
Michelle Sterling:
“One of the interesting things about climate change is it kind of rose from the ashes of the Holocaust and the whole eugenics movement, which was very prominent in the Weimar Republic and also across North America. In the Weimar Republic in Germany before World War II, Michael Kryon has written quite a bit about this. It was very common for authorities to come to a family and say, ‘We know you have a person who’s frail and vulnerable. We want to take them for a medical check.’ They’d go, give them a medical check, march them into a nearby room, gas them with carbon monoxide, and cremate them on-site at these special sites they had. Then they’d write back and say, ‘Oh, I’m sorry, while we were giving them a helpful treatment, they died.’ There was no recourse. This was strictly an economic thing. There’s a book called Death and Deliverance—I can’t remember the author’s name—but it’s very detailed about this whole movement prior to World War II. It actually went on right from the turn of the century.”
Host:
“There was a whole eugenics movement at that time also in North America. A lot of people thought, well, if there was a person who was quote-unquote a ‘useless eater,’ or they weren’t deemed to be the top kind of person, then maybe they shouldn’t be allowed to reproduce. So there was a lot of forced sterilization of people—often people who went into mental institutions or homes for the developmentally handicapped. Edwin Black has a great book on this called War Against the Weak. A lot of the foundations—like the Rockefeller Foundation, Carnegie Institution, and Ford Foundation—were funding the eugenics of Weimar Germany, which would eventually be taken up by the Nazis. The Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, for instance, was funded by the Carnegie Institution and the Rockefeller Foundation. These are the same people that would go on to fund a lot of the climate movement.”
Transition from Eugenics to Environmentalism
Michelle Sterling:
“After all those horrible deeds around the 1970s, that was all wiped out and erased. All the sterilization laws were canceled, eugenics laws were canceled. But right after that arose this whole concern about the environment. In the 70s, there was Limits to Growth, put out by the Club of Rome, and The Population Bomb by Paul Ehrlich—’too many people, we’re all going to starve to death, there’s too many people, not enough resources.’ That’s the Club of Rome. And as you say, the Rockefellers were all in on these kinds of things. A lot of the big foundations were.”
Foundations and Their Influence
Michelle Sterling:
“In the 1950s in the United States, there was a big investigation into these foundations. It was written up in a book called Foundations by René Wormser. They found that these foundations—originally intended to help cancel death taxes of wealthy people and families—became monsters, really Frankenstein, because they had so much power. There’s even a quote in that PowerPoint I sent you: ‘They might be benevolent societies, but they become so big and powerful that they’re doing things beyond the structure of society because society to them really doesn’t matter anymore.’ They have this tremendous growth and power, especially now that they’re all coordinated—especially on the climate change thing.”
Host:
“In that book, there’s a great quote by Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis: ‘There develops within the state a state so powerful that the ordinary social and industrial forces existing are insufficient to cope with it. Their power is inconsistent with our democratic aspirations.’ Of course, he’s referring to the Rockefeller Foundation. These large foundations have moved on to the climate movement, and they are really big funders, movers, and influencers in that realm.”
The Shift from Communism to Climate Activism
Host:
“The Soviet Union collapsed around 1990, and the communist, socialist, Marxist movement—I have to say I’m not great at delineating all of these—rolled itself right into the climate change movement.”
Michelle Sterling:
“You’d asked me what my response to a child would be about climate change, and it would be: ‘Don’t worry, be happy about climate change.’ The climate creates a doom kind of aspect—almost like psychological warfare. When Extinction Rebellion first came out after the RCP 8.5 insistence that that was going to be the new normal, even me and my wife debated having children. Eventually, I looked into it and couldn’t believe how corrupt the science was. Climategate in 2009, the release to WikiLeaks, really opened my eyes to what we were dealing with. That sent me down the rabbit hole of investigating and reading. But even Climategate—the Climate Research Unit was set up by the Rockefellers. They had money from that. This kind of psychological warfare operation—even my wife and I debated whether to have children because we’d become convinced the world was going to end. But after doing a deep dive, we decided to have two, and we’re going to have two more because there’s a lot to look forward to in the future.”
The Role of CO2 and Industrialization
Michelle Sterling:
“The Soviets back in the 80s, when they were battling with the IPCC, said the world would benefit from the CO2 fertilizer effect—greater abundance of harvests, bigger plant and tree growth. They thought it was a positive thing. The climate-industrial complex has complete hegemony over our ideology. It’s managed to equate Holocaust denial with climate denial. If you question their science, it gets shadier and shadier. The truth is, it was always eugenics behind the environmental movement. These same people funding the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany—which became the basis for Nazi Germany’s racial hygiene laws—are funding the environmental movement today.”
Psychological Manipulation and Fear Tactics
Michelle Sterling:
“Greta Thunberg’s book cover says, ‘How dare you?’ This whole movement tries to make people feel bad, scared, and guilty. ‘How dare you question?’ Well, because that’s the beauty of human nature—we are able to critically reason. We’ve only progressed in civilization because we’re able to reason and ask questions. That’s how I dare.”
Historical Climate Cycles
Michelle Sterling:
“If we look at the next slide, you see that the current warming is just the last tiny part of the last 2,000 years of warming and cooling. It’s clear that climate change is cyclical and not caused by carbon dioxide. The very blue part near the book was the Little Ice Age—horribly cold, very erratic weather. Before that, it was very beautiful weather, quite stable, abundant crops. In the Medieval Warm Period, society really advanced because crops were abundant. People didn’t have to work as hard; they weren’t suffering from famine, so they could build beautiful things like castles and cathedrals.”
Host:
“By contrast, if people have watched Les Misérables, that happened at the end of the Little Ice Age, just before it started warming up in the modern warm period. The main character is thrown in jail for stealing a loaf of bread to give to his starving sister. Those cold periods are the worst times for humanity. We’ve actually been enjoying abundant crops in our present warm time.”
Modern Climate Alarmism and Its Consequences
Michelle Sterling:
“Now we’ve collapsed into some bizarre kind of superstition, making wild accusations—like if you change your light bulbs, you’re going to save the polar bears. It’s not going to happen. The grip of culture—the social psychology of climate change catastrophism—is like the prophets in tribes who said, ‘We need to slaughter our cattle, start from year zero, and the gods will provide.’ Of course, they starved. There’s a striking resemblance between those prophets and Greta today—except Greta has been pushed by moneyed interests.”
Host:
“Dr. Richard Lindzen, an atmospheric scientist formerly with MIT, stated a long time ago: ‘Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat’s dream. If you control carbon, you control life.’ Energy runs through every aspect of our lives, wars, conflicts, and conquests. If you can control fire—and carbon dioxide is the outcome of burning things—then you can control everything about people’s lives. That’s what we’re seeing now, incrementally.”
The Climate Industrial Complex and Financialization
Michelle Sterling:
“The climate industrial complex has complete hegemony over our ideology. The IPCC, the Club of Rome, the Rockefeller Foundation—they’re all interconnected. The UN’s principles for responsible investment are a transnational, unelected, unaccountable group of pension fund and institutional investors holding about $100 trillion in assets under management. They’re all addicted to climate change. They Strongarm governments and corporations into climate action, bypassing democracy.”
Host:
“Mark Carney, former Bank of England governor, says companies that don’t toe the line will go bankrupt. They’ve increasingly put pressure on insurance companies and financing so that necessary energy sources will be cut off—which means people literally will starve. Look at Sri Lanka: they instituted the World Economic Forum’s policies on environmental, social, and corporate governance (ESG). As part of that score, they did away with chemical fertilizers and went back to organic farming. Within a year, Sri Lanka was starving, and they had to deploy troops to keep order.”
The Real Agenda Behind Climate Policies
Michelle Sterling:
“The real agenda is control. The Club of Rome’s Limits to Growth and Paul Ehrlich’s The Population Bomb are anti-human. The goal is degrowth, depopulation, and deindustrialization. They want to collapse Western civilization. The green movement is not about saving the planet—it’s about controlling resources and people. The same foundations that funded eugenics are now funding the climate movement.”
Host:
“These people view humans as disposable. Dennis Meadows said we need to get down to 1 billion people, and he hopes it happens ‘in an equal way.’ Paul Watson, founder of Greenpeace, said, ‘I got the impression that instead of going out to shoot birds, I should go out and shoot the kids who shoot birds.’ These are the people driving the climate agenda.”
Conclusion: Don’t Worry, Be Happy
Michelle Sterling:
“For young people out there, don’t worry, be happy about climate change. The climate emergency is over. We have time. There are things we need to address, but we don’t have to turn our world upside down. We have a right to dissent, to rational debate. Keep demanding open civil discussion. The truth is on our side.”
Host:
“Thank you, Michelle, for this brilliant presentation. It’s been a tour de force. Follow me on Bitchute, Odyssey, Rumble, and Telegram. My favorite platform is Telegram. Let’s keep the conversation going. Thank you.”
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Articles Mentioned
William Walter Kay – Margaret Thatcher and the Rise of the Climate Ruse https://blog.friendsofscience.org/2022/07/20/margaret-thatcher-and-the-rise-of-the-climate-ruse/
Richie Brown – Fascism Comes In Green As Well As Brown https://www.diplomaticpost.co.uk/index.php/2024/02/01/fascism-comes-in-green-as-well-as-brown/
Jonathan D Oldfield – Imagining climates past, present and future: Soviet contributions to the science of anthropogenic climate change, 1953–1991 (Soviet Scientists, when battling with the IPCC insisted humanity would benefit from the co2 fertiliser effect) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305748817301998
Mark Schapiro – Conning the Climate:Inside the Carbon-trading shell game https://harpers.org/archive/2010/02/conning-the-climate/
Victory Plan by Ezra Silk
Deutsche Bank – What we Must Do To Rebuild (German bank advocating a war time economy and eco-dictatorship)
Exponential roadmap (issued in 2019 – a lot of things recommended here happened in L0ckdown)
Deadline 2020 (Written in 2016, advocating a 2.9 ton carbon footprint per person by 2030 and 0 carbon footprint by 2050)
Roger Pielke – Distorting The View Of Our Climate Future: The Misuse and abuse of climate pathways and scenarios (Why RCP 8.5 was never feasible. RCP 8.5 triggered the social phenomena of the middle class sh’tLibs )
Clintel.org – There Is No Climate Emergency
Books Mentioned/Further Reading
Matthew Sinclair – Let them Eat Carbon: The Price Of Failing Climate Change Policies, and How Governments and Big Business Profit From Them
Micahel Burleigh – Death and Deliverance (early 20th century Eugenics movement that simply took “useless eaters” away from families )
Edwin Black – War Against the Weak (How the same American eugenicists exported fake race science to Nazi Germany would jump onboard the environmental movement, first insisting on “limits” then on co2 as a “pollutant” )
Dennis Meadows – Limits to Growth (Sponsored by Club of Rome, used computer models to predict the collapse of society)
Paul Erhlich – The Population Bomb ( An attempt to psyop people into thinking babies were associated with violence, ‘bomb’s. Erhlich demanded forced sterilisation)
Rene A Wormser – Foundations: Their Power and Influence (A Supreme court justice quoted in this book called the Rockefeller Foundation a “State within the State”)
Jacob Nordangard – Rockefellers: Controlling the Game (An incredibly detailed account of how these Foundations formed the eugenics and environmental movements)
Peter f Drucker – Unseen revolution: How Pension Fund Socialism Came to America
Adam – Harmes – Unseen Power
Duff Macdonald – The Firm
Walt Bogdanich (Author), Michael Forsythe – When McKinsey Comes to Town: The Hidden Influence of the World’s Most Powerful Consulting Firm
